Get Reworked Podcast

Innovation is a word that's often used but rarely understood. But research out of the Upwork Research Institute sheds light on what innovative companies have in common.   

Upwork Research Institute's Kelly Monahan joins Get Reworked to discuss her research into how innovative companies approach hiring, AI use and distributed work as a cohesive business operating model — and why that helps them deliver change under tight budget restrictions.

"The three things we all need in a job is we need autonomy, we need to feel like we're learning and mastering, and we also need to feel connected to community. And those three things I think are in really rare regard today for the ways we think about innovation. I would rather ask, well, do you have autonomy? Do you feel connected to your colleagues? Do you feel like you're contributing to something bigger than yourself than necessarily perks? Again, in a perfect world, you'd have both firing on all cylinders, but I think we overlook at the intrinsic side," said Kelly.

• How workplace innovators maintain culture across a blended organization.
• Why Kelly doesn't see innovation and efficiency as being at odds.
• How self-determination theory applies to workplace motivation and satisfaction.

Show Notes

• Kelly Monahan on LinkedIn
  
• Kelly's full Three Dots interview
• The Upwork Research Institute's report on work innovators

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The more technology changes, the more (some) things stay the same.  

That's one takeaway from my conversation with Northern Trust Asset Servicing's Shaelyn Otikor-Miller. She joins Get Reworked to discuss the journey the company went on to vet and then launch Dynamics Copilot internally and how closely — as big a change AI may be — the rollout resembles previous technology launches.

"It does make you question what's the next phase we're about to go through? What's the next corner we're painting ourselves into? What I'm noticing is that there's a lot of passion and concerns around AI and where all the technology is going. I think we just need to slow down the mindset a bit and realize it's just another phase. It's another part of the journey," said Shaelyn.

• The hurdles Shaelyn's team tackled to prepare for the Dynamics Copilot rollout.
• How Shaelyn handles the change management side of the rollout.
• An overview of how 25+ years of technological changes have changed the workplace — and what things stay the same.

Show Notes

• Shaelyn Otikor-Miller on LinkedIn
• Shaelyn's previous visit to Get Reworked
• Shaelyn's full Three Dots interview

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Our online tools facilitate learning new practices and exchanging information at the same time they interrupt our focus and fracture our attention.  

Finding that balance is a motivation for Laura Pike Seeley, knowledge program leader at global architecture firm HKS, Inc. She joins Get Reworked to discuss how the firm strikes that balance through a blend of knowledge sharing practices and approaches.

"Digital workplace design is critical here, right? Most of us spend an enormous part of our day working within the digital workplace and the tools that it connects us to. So this environment can be full of flashing lights and distractions, or it can be an environment that guides you through the noise to find the connections and the ideas that matter most to you," said Laura.

• How HKS Inc balances live knowledge sharing lessons and static knowledge hubs to account for employee needs.
• The differences between knowledge management practices in a consumer packaged goods firm vs. an architecture firm.
• How she finds the balance between information overload and open exploration and knowledge sharing.

Show Notes

• Laura Pike Seeley on LinkedIn
• Laura Pike Seeley's articles on Reworked

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For anyone who's ever had an application reboot in the middle of a meeting, who waited days before they received access to a business critical application, whose computer shuts down whenever they try to upload software — this episode is for you.  

Frank McAloon, VP of digital workplace and security delivery at CVS Health joins Get Reworked to discuss the cross-departmental coalition he built to improve the digital employee experience for their 300,000 colleagues. By moving these IT tasks under a bigger umbrella of leaders, he's connecting IT efforts to business results and speeding time to resolution.

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"Overall, the success that we're trying to have with the XMO is to reduce stress on our colleagues, making them more productive, making sure they are more streamlined in what they're doing and ultimately helping our clients and customers across everyone that works with CVS. The happier our colleagues can be and the more efficient they can be, the better it is for everyone," said Frank.

• How he and the XMO office approach prioritization in an organization with more than 300,000 employees.
• How CVS Health is using AI to identify potential problem areas for colleagues.
• Why Frank sees a future where IT help desks are no longer needed.

Show Notes

• Frank McAloon on LinkedIn

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Seven years. That's how long BlackRock spent bringing its new global headquarters from vision to life. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Jen Schettino, head of digital workplace and control at BlackRock, shares the seven year journey the company undertook to reinvent not only its physical headquarters, but its digital. The team persevered through the pandemic and other setbacks to bring the headquarters to life in 2022 — which resulted in their recognition as a Reworked Impact Award winner for innovative use of workplace technology.

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"Change management was the key to our success and really helping people to understand before they ever stepped foot in that building what they were getting, I think really helped us in the weeks and months that followed. And that has been a huge lesson for us as we think about other technologies we roll out, as we tackle other moves like this," said Jen.

• A discussion of the before and after of BlackRock's workplace.
• Why Jen credits change management for the success of the initiative.
• The employee response to the new face of BlackRock.

Show Notes

• Jen Schettino on LinkedIn
• About BlackRock
• Spotlight on the 2024 Reworked Impact Award Winners and Finalists

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If someone asked you to define design thinking, would you be able to do it? 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Andrew Lindsay, global head of enterprise design at KraftHeinz, joins me to discuss why that lack of a clear definition is in part why design thinking has been called into question of late, and advocates for why it's more important than ever.

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"In the absence of a design practice and design strategist and user researchers, engineers and product teams and business stakeholders are the hippo — the highest paid person's opinion — who drive those types of decisions. And so having that third-party perspective, that nonpartisan view coming from the design team really helps the teams take a step back, lead with data and insights, and then make more informed decisions," Andrew said. 

• What critics of design thinking got right and where they missed the mark. 
• Why Andrew views design thinking is one form of business development.
• What goes into choosing which problem to solve when with design thinking.

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Show Notes

• MIT Technology Review: Design Thinking Was Supposed to Fix the World. Where Did It Go Wrong?
• Watch Andrew's interview on Three Dots

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Compassion isn't typically a focus of board-room discussions, but maybe it should be. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Dr. James Doty, neurosurgeon, author, founder of the Center of Compassion and Altruism Research at Stanford University and founder of Happi.ai joins me to discuss the research behind the creation of his mental health avatar and why companies should learn the science behind why compassion in the workplace benefits everyone.

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"The reality is that there are many corporations which are functioning on an old paradigm, which is motivation through fear. And when that is the paradigm, it leads to several negative aspects. One is it decreases productivity, it decreases creativity, it increases healthcare costs, and it has a negative effect or increases, if you will, human resource costs. So if the corporate entity in and of itself is not a compassionate place, that will dramatically increase problems related to mental health issues," said Jim. 

• Why an identified need for self-compassion in part drove the creation of Happi.ai, a mental health avatar.
• The scientific and financial argument for why compassion matters in the workplace.
• How technology can both help and harm our efforts to build connections in the world and the workplace.
  

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Show Notes

• Dr. James Doty's website
• Happi.ai
• Stanford's Center for Compassion and Altruism Research
• Dr. Doty's latest book, "Mind Magic: The Neuroscience of Manifestation and How it Changes Everything"
  
• Dr. Doty's interview on Three Dots

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100,000 employees, 15 intranets and who knows how many individual department SharePoint sites.

That’s the challenge that Chris Harrer and his team at Comcast faced when tasked with bringing this fragmented digital ecosystem together into a seamless digital employee experience with the relaunch of the company’s intranet, ComcastNow. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Chris, former AVP of digital internal communications at Comcast and IMPACT award winner gives us an inside look into how he and his team untangled the fragmented digital ecosystem that was ComcastNow, the company's intranet, to deliver an unified digital employee experience.

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"We did a lot of research. We did surveys, obviously, and we did many individual stakeholder sessions. I think we did 36 stakeholder sessions, and that went from everywhere from literally the CIO, the CHRO, all the way down to department heads. We did end users in general, all the way from the frontline all the way up. Everyone's a user in the end," said Chris. 

• The unexpected challenges that came up during the project.
• The response to the relaunched ComcastNow.
• What Chris wishes he knew when he started that he knew when he ended.
  

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Show Notes

• Chris's full interview on Three Dots
• Chris on LinkedIn

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Think back to your first day at work. You met your new colleagues, learned about the corporate culture and maybe got some branded company swag. But did you get the tools you needed to actually accomplish your job? 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Spencer Mains, head of digital workplace experience at Pacific Gas & Electric shares how he and his team pushed tech enablement onto the orientation agenda after witnessing how long it took for some of their colleagues to receive their work computer. 

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"A year ago, we had people coming on board, and it could take an average of five days before you are actually connected to the network with your equipment. And that's a bit of a shame and kind of an embarrassment. It's not right for our ratepayers, it's not right for their colleagues. So we quantified that as lost productivity. We showed the numbers, it was in the millions of dollars of lost productivity, we have people who were actually sitting idle. And we changed that," said Spencer. 

• Why Spencer cares so much about the onboarding experience.
• Why IT leaders need to take a stand in the workplace.
• Why Spencer uses joy as a key metric.
  

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Show Notes

• Spencer's full interview on Three Dots
• Spencer on LinkedIn

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Conflict is an unfortunate truth in life, society and the workplace. Some might call it a necessary evil. But is it really that bad? Without healthy tension, diversity of thought and spirited debate, we can’t have innovation, growth or change within our organizations. 

Karin Hurt, CEO of Let’s Grow Leaders and author of the book, “Powerful Phrases For Dealing With Workplace Conflict,” joins the podcast to discuss what she’s learned about addressing conflict with care-filled words and building brighter, bolder cultures in the office.

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“If you both care about something really passionately, you're gonna have conflict. It's how you manage the conflict, and so care filled words can make all the difference. And that's really why we wrote powerful phrases for dealing with workplace conflict, so that you can have more productive conflict up, down and sideways in your teams.”

Highlights of the conversation include: 

• The four dimensions of productive conflict.
• The role that building human connections plays.
• How hybrid and remote work have reshaped our approaches to conflict.
• What can be done at the organizational level to normalize disagreements between teams and colleagues.

Plus, hosts Siobhan Fagan and Nidhi Madhavan chat with Karin about why traditional approaches to providing feedback (“I” statements, sh*t sandwiches) don’t work, the G.O.A.T phrases to use instead, and overcoming physical barriers in a remote environment.

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Show Notes

• Karin Hurt on LinkedIn
  
• Karin's book, available May 14: "Powerful Phrases for Dealing with Workplace Conflict: What to Say Next to Destress the Workday, Build Collaboration, and Calm Difficult Customers"
• Related free resources: Conflict and Collaboration Resource Center
• Karin's Courage Coach column

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The number and variety of tools in our workplaces have steadily grown over the last 10 or so years, but their ranks exploded during the pandemic. With that explosion came confusion over which tool to use when, with the default often being using all of them for everything. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Designing Collaboration director Andrew Pope discusses why asynchronous work can help us claw back some of our focus and shares how to get started.

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"So first of all, it is understanding and appreciating that it's a problem. And understanding that everybody has different preferences. So it's really just getting the team together and talking about this and A) acknowledging that it's not working, and B) starting to understand that there is value in agreeing one or two more simplified ways. And I think once you kind of realize how bad things are, you go, OK, yeah, we do need to change. And there is a better way and getting the team together to agree collectively what it is, is really powerful."

Highlights of the conversation include: 

• Why we need to be more deliberate in choosing which collaboration tools to use when.
• Why team charters can change how you collaborate and communicate for the better.
• How you can convince people to change their habits.
• Where to get started with asynchronous collaboration.
• How working out loud supports asynchronous work.

Plus, hosts Nidhi Madhavan and Siobhan Fagan talk with Andrew about how asynchronous collaboration can help democratize idea sharing, when it's important to work in sync and why building up capabilities like asynchronous work sometimes beats big transformation projects. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Andrew Pope on LinkedIn
• Andrew Pope on Reworked
• "5 Ways to Get Started With Asynchronous Work"
• Designing Collaboration

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Normalizing the conversation around employee well-being is one positive outcome that came out of the pandemic. Businesses now understand the role they have in supporting employee well-being and the bottom line cost of ignoring this area.

In this episode of Get Reworked, AWS' Global Head of HR, Manufacturing & Automotive, Prudence Pitter discusses what AWS is doing to support employee well-being. 

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"A leader who can share, 'I had this deliverable that I missed, because I got to this location, my luggage was not there. It caused a whole ripple effect where I was not able to be productive for two days. And so this is how I bounce back.' It's important for leaders to share some of the personal things that they're OK with sharing that help others recognize that it's normal, not only some of the ways that professionally they have fallen, if you will, but also importantly, how they bounce back. What are the ways that they redeem themselves. And I think that's a very powerful story to tell," said Prudence.

Highlights of the conversation include: 

• Why you need accountability built into well-being initiatives.
• Why well-being accounts for the whole person, both in and out of work.
• How well-being initiatives will not go anywhere if they ignore the ways the workplace is impacting well-being.
• Why leaders need to model the behavior they're promoting.
• How to normalize the conversation around well-being to remove any lingering stigma.

Plus, hosts Siobhan Fagan and Nidhi Madhavan talk with Prudence about identifying where to focus well-being efforts, why some leaders may need coaching to have difficult conversations, and if discussing well-being without following through does more harm than good. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Prudence Pitter on LinkedIn
• Prudence's blog
• "Atomic Habits," by James Clear
• US Surgeon General's Framework for Workplace Mental Health and Well-Being 

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Middle management has been the butt of jokes for years — and often bear the brunt of layoffs, as was the case in 2023. But in the right hands, middle management can act as the glue that helps align employees and their work with a company's broader success. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Ryppl Effect founder Joe Makston shares how his experience as an employee experience leader and head of learning and development shaped his approach to some hard leadership conversations. 

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"When you start to understand, oh, the customer implementation process that I just took somebody through, contributes to the department goal of whatever and contributes to that line of business and ultimately rolls up to we're supposed to book $500 million in this specific category, if I can understand that by closing that implementation, that work contributes to actually getting to the $500,000 — that is gold for an employee,  they see the broader picture. It's leaders understanding when you're writing goals, when you're talking about performance, how to tie it to, frankly, the strategy and that breakdown between strategy and the tactical piece," said Joe.

Highlights of the conversation include: 

• Why now's the time to discuss how leadership is struggling.
• How shortcomings in leadership development led to the ongoing management boom—bust cycles.
• How management impacts culture, engagement and productivity.  
  
• Why he thinks being a manager and an individual contributor at the same time isn't a good idea.
• How managers can give leadership a view into the day-to-day operations.

Plus, hosts Nidhi Madhavan and Siobhan Fagan talk with Joe about how organizations can identify who is right for management roles, why some people may need to be pushed to grow and the parallels he sees between being a pastor and being a leader. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Joe Makston on LinkedIn
• Gallup's research into the impact of middle managers
• Gallup research on middle management squeeze
• Reworked article: Workers Are Lonely. Here's What Leaders Can Do

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Managing change is tough. Now imagine managing a change initiative that involves overhauling 118 legacy systems for 750,000 stakeholders under the watchful eye of Congress. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Air Force enterprise change manager Heather Knuffke gives an inside look at what it takes to make change stick at the over 75-year-old institution.

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"When you have an organization that's this big, and you have commanders in charge of units across the Air Force, and each commander wants to manage their own organization in their own way, it's not so easy just to say turn around and march, right? .... So we believe strongly in delegating responsibility down. And so we try to give our commanders at bases and commanders of units as much authority over how they run their organization so that they can effectively lead when it comes to HR policy, and when it comes to talent management and promotions, and awards, and things like that. That's within the commander's purview," said Heather.

Highlights of the conversation include: 

• Why you can't just order people to change.
• The emotional component that's part of any change management initiative.
  
• Why her role is as much about being a translator between IT and HR.  
  
• How she prioritizes across a variety of competing demands.
• The two skills she thinks every change manager should possess.
  

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Heather about training a cadre of change managers throughout the Air Force, how she approaches the multiple stakeholders involved in the change initiatives and what it's like getting a PhD in change management while working in change management every day. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Heather on LinkedIn
  

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What does commitment mean in the context of work? From an employee's point of view, it can mean a reduction in stress, increased meaning, as well as the capacity to do their best work. From the employer's side, it can translate into increased productivity and higher employee engagement — which directly impacts their bottom line. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we speak with Andre Martin, former CLO and author of "Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever," about why it's so important to discuss how work gets done in our workplaces so employees — and employers — can find the right fit for them.

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"Hiring managers have got to be more transparent. We have to be comfortable in being able to talk about the madness behind the method. Talk about the places where it's kind of hard to do work here because of these factors and talk about them in terms of we're always trying to get better — but that transparency is going to pay off .... ," said Andre. "We know that people more and more are looking for transparency, they're looking for vulnerability. They're looking for a place that is human and imperfect. And so my hope is that hiring managers will give talent a little bit more of a view into the company, because then they will find the right person and the people that opt out should have probably opted out."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What's causing the crisis of commitment today.
• Why Andre wants to see a return to the 20-year career in one workplace.
• The difference between boredom and comfort in a job.
• Why a frank discussion of how a company works should be a critical part of any job interview — for the interviewer and the interviewee. 
• How Andre differentiates between being the "right fit" and "fitting in."

Plus, hosts Nidhi Madhavan and Siobhan Fagan talk with Andre about why the aspirational language companies use to describe themselves often do more harm than good, why he believes there's a company for everyone and why he thinks companies should re-recruit their employees on a regular basis. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Andre Martin on LinkedIn
• Andre's book: "Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever"

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Human resources — and the role of the chief HR officer with it — has been seeking a proverbial "seat at the table" for years now. The difference now is, more of them are not only gaining that seat, they are as our guest puts it, "helping design the table."

In this episode of Get Reworked, we speak with Don Robertson, EVP and CHRO of Northwestern Mutual about his approach to employee experience and how his previous experience on the business side informs how he operates — namely, with a business-first mindset. 

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"Many of the things that we have to do require you to put together business cases to look at the financials, to look at budgets, all these things. So if you don't have strong financial skills, if you don't have strong ability to put together business cases, just like you would if you're the investments team and you're putting together a business case to ... buy a building or invest in something — you have to have those kinds of skill sets. I can't just go in there and say, 'Hey, we should invest $10 million in a new HR system, because our people will like it better and will have better engagement," said Don.

"I have to be able to show: if we do this, we'll get more adoption. If we get more adoption, then people leaders will do what we need them to do. And they'll ultimately develop their people better. And therefore you'll have the talent you need. And these are the kinds of investments you need to make. So that you know our engagement goes up or attrition goes down or we get better adoption. And you just start talking about the actual attribution, the things that you benefit from by doing these things. And I can tell you in a zero-sum game and the world we live in with budgets and everything else, you have to be able to make those cases."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why data is a modern CHRO's best friend.
• How Northwestern went from employee engagement in the low 40s to over 80%.
• The role HR business partners play in Don's work.
• How Northwestern approaches the employee expectation-business need balancing act.
  
• The role he sees HR playing with AI adoption.

Plus, hosts Nidhi Madhavan and Siobhan Fagan talk with Don about why he thinks rolling back on EX efforts is a mistake, how he's consciously developing the skills of his potential successor and why he thinks anyone working in HR would benefit by spending time on the business side. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Don Robertson on LinkedIn
• Northwestern Mutual website

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Collaboration can be taught and learned. Yet few organizations are actively teaching employees how to master this critical skill. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we speak with Deb Mashek, founder of Myco Consulting, LLC to learn how companies can move collaboration from a platitude on their office walls to a capability found throughout the organization. 

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"If you want to see a lot of collaboration, if you want to have a collaborative culture, first of all, you need to make collaboration possible. That sounds so obvious, but it means that you can't create weird infrastructures where people can't actually contact each other, which we saw when in 2020, a lot of us migrated very quickly from being fully in person to being fully remote, where there weren't a list of people's email addresses or phone numbers and so it wasn't clear even how to contact people. We didn't have a lot of us access to videoconferencing yet," said Deb. "So the modalities the infrastructure wasn't there to actually collaborate. And thankfully we a lot of us were able to onboard that fairly quickly."

• Why organizations aren't teaching collaboration.
• Whether collaborative efforts are ever a waste of time.
• How to hire for collaborative mindset.
• The broader collaborative ecosystem businesses should keep in mind.
• The five questions to establish if your organization is equipped to collaborate.
  

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Deb about how she came to specialize in collaboration, why helicopter parenting stunts collaborative skills growth and how to avoid running your business like a filthy dive bar. Listen in for more.

Have a suggestion, comment or topic for a future episode? Drop us a line at [email protected].

Show Notes

• Deb's website
• Deb on LinkedIn
• Deb's write up of her collaboration study: "Collaboration Is a Key Skill. So Why Aren't We Teaching It?"
• Deb's book: "Collabor(h)ate: How to build incredible collaborative relationships at work (even if you’d rather work alone)."
• Arther Himmelman's "Collaboration for a Change: Definitions, Decision-Making Models, Roles and Collaboration Process Guide"
• Deb's Reworked articles

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Low-code tools promise to put the power of easy process fixes into the hands of employees. But beyond individual productivity improvements, citizen development offers employees a chance to improve collaboration skills, increase their technical know-how and gain visibility for work outside of their typical workplace roles. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Shaelyn Otikor-Miller, SVP and head of global digital workplace strategy at Northern Trust Asset Servicing to discuss its thriving citizen developer program and her long-term vision for the program.

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"I think that's the one thing in the citizen development community, I probably struggle with is the mindset shift. Right? In the past, we had the formal training, we had the communications and newsletters, everything got pushed out to someone, you're required to take training, or you get locked out of your system or something," said Shaelyn.

"With these tools, it is all about the individual. And that's what I love, right? So it doesn't matter. It helps diversity, it helps equality. It helps just reskilling, upskilling staff want to shine and get more exposure and visibility, the only thing driving it is their own willingness to learn and dig in and be self starters."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How the citizen developer program first came into being.
• Why citizen development requires a change in mindset.
• How she's built the program using a hub and spoke model.
• How citizen development feeds upskilling and reskilling efforts.
• Where employees find value in citizen development, beyond low-code process fixes.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Kate Cox talk with Shaelyn about generative AI, why citizen development is nothing new and how generational differences help feed the demand for low-code platforms. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Shaelyn on LinkedIn
  
• Northern Trust Asset Servicing
• Reworked's Low-Code Development Channel

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How does the world's largest professional network help its own employees build connections?

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Laurel Dzneladze, employee communications, digital platforms leader at LinkedIn about the community-based approach to employee communications at the company and how it feeds into the broader employee experience.  

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"Some of our work focus has been on that — how can we make this flexible work, work?" said Laurel. "We're creating a virtual experience for our remote employees. But we're also creating these in-person experiences, or even driving the desire to go to an office by surfacing community-based content that would make somebody go to an office or attend a virtual event."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why Laurel and her team focus on amplifying employee and leader voices.  
  
• How community building is central to their approach.
• What channels and tools she uses to get the messages out.
• How to help people participate in community, whether in person or working remotely.
• How she measures the success of these efforts.

Plus, co-hosts Kate Cox and Siobhan Fagan talk with Laurel about why she's on team 'no newsletter,' how LinkedIn still sees itself as a scrappy start-up, and how to reuse, repurpose and recycle content. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Laurel on LinkedIn
• LinkedIn Company Page
• The Community Roundtable's Community Engagement Framework

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Applications of quantum computing in the workplace may still sound like a theoretical future, but the need for workers capable of working with quantum is immediate and real.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Bradley Holt, program director of workforce development at IBM Quantum, about what the company is doing to close the quantum skills gap and why it's focused on getting younger generations interested in quantum computing now.

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"There are an estimated 27 million classical software developers in the world today," Bradley said. "So that's a very, very different workforce, right, 3,000 people actually applying their skills in the field of quantum compared to say, 27 million classical developers. So we're getting there .... I don't think we need to go and really trained tens of millions of quantum developers overnight. But over the next decade or two, we're likely going to see a really significant increase in demand for quantum developers."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How to get started exploring quantum in your organization.
• Whether widespread access to quantum computers is realistic in the near-term.
• How colleges are responding to the demand for quantum skills. 
• The different roles preparing for the quantum future.
• Why policymakers should be part of the learning cohort. 

Plus, co-hosts Kate Cox and Siobhan Fagan talk with Bradley about his quantum computing pitch for an 8-year-old, why IBM is partnering with HBCUs on quantum education and quantum scientists' popular pet names. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Bradley on LinkedIn
• IBM quantum computing explainer
• IBM work on NIST quantum-safe cryptography standards

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Delivering a digital workplace that works for multiple teams, in multiple locations, all with different end goals is challenging to say the least. But sometimes it comes down to communications and training as much as it does to the tools themselves.  

In this special episode of Get Reworked, recorded live at the J.W. Marriot in Austin, Texas during the Reworked CONNECT conference, Dante Ragazzo, senior director, digital workplace at Tapestry discusses the work he's doing to simplify and remove friction from the digital workplace at Tapestry. 

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"So I think that if you are not only improving your experience, but showing that you're improving your experience, I think it goes a long way toward employees. I think employees are actually really forgiving, and they understand what's different when you're a consumer. 'Well, you want to get my money. So you should do everything you can to impress me.'

"When you're the employee, it's like, 'Well, the more money you spend on other niceties to make me feel good is less money that we have to invest in our business, bonuses and everything else.' So I think employees have a certain understanding like they don't want to just see the coffers wide open and spending frivolously," said Dante.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What causes some of the digital friction
• The many definitions of the digital workplace
• How he approaches shadow IT
• How to balance diverse team needs with the desire to create a cohesive digital workplace
• The digital workplace discovery tour he now runs at Tapestry 

Plus, co-hosts Kate Cox and Siobhan Fagan talk with Dante about the differences between customer experience and employee experience, how we can't live in a magic kingdom, and why sometimes you have to accept that good enough is good enough. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Tapestry company website
• Dante on LinkedIn
• Dante on Twitter

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Generative AI is the latest shiny toy in the workplace technology toolbox. The difference in this case is the bar to use it is very low. ChatGPT and the like are freely available to anyone with access to a web browser and an internet connection.

In this episode of Get Reworked, employment attorney Peter Rahbar of The Rahbar Group discusses the potential risks of generative AI to the workplace and why organizations need to create guardrails around employee use. 

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"I think it's very important in this moment, where we have a potential transformative technology, for the company to really take the lead on how it's introduced and used in the workplace. So I think an effective policy would not only describe what platforms and technologies are being governed here, but what type of information should and shouldn't be used with these platforms," said Peter.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The risks — and rewards — generative AI creates for employers and employees alike.
• How generative AI adds to existing employee fears of being replaced.
• Why companies should create policies on generative AI use now, not later.
• Why we need a debate on the use of AI in HR.
• On where we are and where we need to be with AI regulation.
  

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Peter about the importance of transparency around AI use, the different effects of internal vs. external use, and whether or not he is indeed Peter Rahbar. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Peter on LinkedIn
  
• The Rahbar Group

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When we hear the word "erosion" we tend to think of nature: water erosion, soil erosion, wind erosion. But much like the natural elements, daily stressors can wear us humans down too.  

In this episode of Get Reworked, Karen Dillon and Rob Cross, co-authors of the book  "The Microstress Effect: How Little Things Pile Up and Create Big Problems — and What to Do about It," discuss how the incremental stresses we absorb every day are impacting our performance at work, our relationships and our lives. 

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"It just means that none of us are able to be our best selves. And we accept that we don't even think there's an alternative. That's what Rob's talking about those interviews. The high-performers were successful from the outside perspective, but they a lot of them were hanging on by a thread internally, and that cannot be the best performance," said Karen.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What high performers do differently to manage and mitigate microstress
  
• How we're all having our frog in the boiling water moment
• The three categories of microstresses
• How our workplace habits are adding to microstress
• What managers can do to minimize microstress for themselves and their teams.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Rob and Karen about how our networks are part of the solution and how sometimes you just have to rise above. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• The book: "The Microstress Effect: How Little Things Pile Up and Create Big Problems — and What to Do about It."
• Karen on LinkedIn
• Rob on LinkedIn
• Karen's website
• Rob's website
• Rob's previous Get Reworked podcast episode

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What makes a company irresistible?

That's the question behind Josh Bersin's most recent book, "Irresistible: The 7 Secrets to the World's Most Enduring, Employee Focused Organizations." And what it comes down to is they focus on their employees.

At a time when some companies are rolling back improvements made into employee experience, Bersin joins Get Reworked to explain why an investment in employee experience is an investment in the long-term health and success of an organization.

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"Investors can sell their stock, they're not that committed to the company, they can leave. Customers can leave too, customers will give you all sorts of input, but they can just buy another product. Employees are deeply committed to your company, because they voted with their lives and their families to work for you. And when they have problems and they speak up, you need to listen to them first, not last, and don't sacrifice the employees on behalf of the customers.

"And that's what the EX thing is all about. It's creating a real focus on what can we do to take this workforce we have and make it really better for them, for our customers, for our product, for our operations, and so forth," said Josh.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What separates employee-centric organizations from others.
• The qualities that define an irresistible organization.
• Why constant learning in part defines successful organizations.
• How leaders need to change from controllers to coaches.
• Why team-centric work sets thriving companies apart.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Josh about a memorable performance review, why becoming an irresistible organization is challenging for leaders and employees alike, and why the long-term success of a company rests on its ability to unleash human potential. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Josh Bersin's website
• The story behind "Irresistible: The 7 Secrets to the World's Most Enduring, Employee Focused Organizations"
• Josh's Reworked profile page

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Between 10% and 20% of the world's population is considered neurodivergent, according to Deloitte. Yet companies still default to one-size-fits-all approaches to management, which rarely suit anyone.

In this episode of Get Reworked, John Abel, technical director, office of the CTO at Google Cloud discusses what businesses can do to support and help neurodivergent employees flourish — from reducing friction via technology, to increasing leader's listening skills, to asking the right questions, to communicating in multiple ways to reach all employees. 

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"Someone said to me the other day, how do I know if I'm doing diversity well as a leader? And I said, the only way I can tell you is from my personal experience. You should feel exhausted. And what I mean by that is, we all are struggling with obtaining the next generation of talent. And for me, the talent starts much younger, well before career. And actually, you've got to make them excited about your industry or your business, before they're well into the employment process. Because inherently, if you don't, you're going to get one type of employee," said John.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What being a flexible leader means.
• How technology advances have improved daily work for neurodivergent people.  
• How leaders can help employees through listening and self discovery.
• Why simplifying, not adding complexity, is the trick to getting things done.
• How employees can help their managers manage them.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with John about how to help everyone use their full skillset, the connection between neurodiversity and creativity, and why fail fast is an inadequate term. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• John on LinkedIn
• John's article, "The Tools That Help Me Work From Home With Dyslexia"
• Google Launches Career Program for Neurodiverse Talent

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Although employee experience is a relatively new term, the concept behind it isn't: support your employees to do their best work and they will support your business in turn.

In this episode of Get Reworked, World Wide Technology's executive vice president of global human resources, Ann Marr shares lessons learned delivering award-winning employee experiences over her 25-year career with the company. Ann was the recipient of Reworked's 2022 Employee Experience of the Year award.

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"I've been such an advocate of parents who work to make sure that there's a balance there. And that pendulum can swing, maybe, you know, if you're working on a really important project, you maybe have to spend a lot more time at the office. But on the same pendulum, maybe you have a sick kid, or maybe you have a kid who's in a sporting event and you want to see them compete in a sporting event, you have to balance that," said Ann.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What it takes to create a consistent employee experience across 15 locations around the world.
  
• How WWT approaches onboarding.
• Where career development fits in WWT's employee experience.
• What to do to ensure employees remain engaged.
• How supporting employees who are caregivers pays off for everyone in the long run.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Ann about how employees can gauge if an employer is a good fit for them, where supplier diversity fits into the company's EX strategy and how she feels on her 25th anniversary at the company. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Ann on LinkedIn
• Ann on Twitter
  

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Back to office advocates have used corporate culture as an argument for why employees need to return to a central location. But corporate culture isn't defined by a physical place. Ideally, it's a combination of behaviors, practices and processes.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Udemy chief learning officer Melissa Daimler discusses what an intentional approach to building culture looks like and why it benefits organizations — and employees — in the long-run. 

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"So many people that I have talked to throughout my career have said, 'Why are you getting in the way of culture just happening organically?' And my response to that is, it is happening already, whether by design or default, so we might as well design it, and be more explicit about things that we want to see and things that we don't want to have be part of our culture," said Melissa.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How to define culture.
  
• The strong relationship between learning and development and culture.
  
• Why businesses need to reassess culture on an ongoing basis.
• What it takes to turn a toxic culture around.
• How to make culture work in the hybrid workplace.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Melissa about Twitter now vs. Twitter 10 years ago, what employees can do to help shape culture and why vibes alone aren't enough to create a corporate culture. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Melissa on LinkedIn
• Melissa's website
• Melissa's book: "ReCulturing: Design Your Company Culture to Connect with Strategy and Purpose for Lasting Success"
  

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At a time when the number of available workplace tools is exploding, how can a company meet employee demands for technology while not overwhelming them with choice?

In this episode of Get Reworked, Tope Sadiku, global head of digital employee experience at The Kraft Heinz Company discusses how she takes a human-centric approach to delivering personalized digital experiences to the multinational food company's employees. 

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"Really, for me, it's less of a tools focus .... I don't want to have a conversation really, when I'm trying to scope something out, about tools and capabilities so specifically, where someone's saying, 'OK, I like the visual of this. I'm used to this, I've used this in a previous team, a previous company.' It's less about that. It's more about, what are we actually trying to achieve? And then we can say, OK, what's the best way to achieve that goal?" said Tope.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What a delightful digital employee experience looks like.
• Striking the balance between offering employees technology options and decision fatigue. 
• How Kraft Heinz ties ESG into the digital employee experience.
• How regular tool audits fit into tool acquisition discussions.
• How Tope moved from a career in finance to leading digital employee experience.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Tope about how to reduce friction in workplace technology, how pizza toppings relate to digital personalization, and whether hot dog flavored popsicles are a good or bad idea. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Tope on LinkedIn
• Tope's panel during Reworked's Digital Workplace Experience event, fall 2022 (registration required)
• The Kraft Heinz Company website
• Oscar Mayer's "Cold Dog" Popsicle Press Release

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How can a company communicate with employees who are distributed across multiple locations, roles and time zones? More importantly, how can companies ensure these communications are two-way and not a top-down broadcast?

In this episode of Get Reworked, Maren Waggoner, VP of People, End-to-End Operations, U.S. at Walmart gives us an inside look at how the company communicates with — and hears from — the 1.2 million associates working in U.S. operations. 

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"Part of listening isn't just what might not be working, we definitely want to have an eye to that and an ear to it. But also, we want to have an ear to what are the great ideas that our associates are seeing every day in their day-to-day work. And we have an application, or a kind of a channel, that we've established called me@ideas at Walmart. And so any associate at any time can go into this channel and submit an idea of maybe something we should consider doing or a better way of doing things," said Maren.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What the company means by tech-enabled, people-led.
• How employee listening scales from the local to the corporate level.
• How Walmart uses tools like natural language processing to establish employee sentiment.
  

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Maren about creating feedback loops for employee suggestions, how the company balances technology and in person channels for communications and where she plans to focus her efforts in the year ahead. Listen in for more.

Please note: The conversation was recorded before the mass shooting at a Walmart store in Chesapeake, Va. in November, so the events of that day do not come up in the discussion.

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Show Notes

• Maren on LinkedIn
• Walmart Corporate Site

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Our workplaces hit a milestone in recent years: it was the first time on record that five generations shared the workplace. While there's been no shortage of articles on the needs and desires of individual generations, not much has been paid to the benefits the mix of generations produces — both for individuals and organizations. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Ramsey Alwin, president and CEO of the National Council on Aging, discusses the many benefits of an age-diverse workplace and the high cost of letting ageism go unchecked. 

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"Eight out of 10 workers over 50 feel they've experienced ageism in the workforce, and the analysis is $850 billion a year are being lost due to the ageism that is found in the workplace.

So when it comes to HR leaders, there's so much they can do that goes well above and beyond the Age Discrimination and Employment Act, the current law that says anyone over 40 cannot be discriminated against. And that's a law, and it's a low bar," said Ramsey.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The benefits of having multiple generations in the workplace. 
• What we can learn from New Zealand and Iceland about building age-inclusive workforces.
• How HR leaders can best promote age diversity in hiring and retention.
• The outsized impact layoffs has on older workers.
• How we should rethink careers as longevity increases.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Ramsey about the differences in advocating for change at the government level rather than the organizational level, what retirement means if we live till 150 and AARP marketing practices. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Ramsey on the NCOA website
• National Council on Aging
• OECD Report: Promoting an Age-Inclusive Workforce: Living, Learning and Earning Longer
• Yale Study on impacts of ageism on health: Harmful Effects of Ageism on Older Persons' Health
• Reworked article: Worker Shortage? Tell That to the 'Older Workers'

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Diversity efforts typically fall under HR's remit, and for good reason. But talking about people and culture will only take a company so far. To move the needle on DEI efforts, organizations need to follow the money.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Eloiza Domingo, Allstate's VP, Chief Inclusive Diversity & Equity Officer, Human Resources explains how the American insurance mainstay incorporates diversity into every facet of the organization. And it all starts with how it spends its money. 

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"So I would encourage companies as they think about their diversity efforts, not to just look at the people and culture — that certainly is one thing. But where are you actually putting your money? Where are you investing your money?" said Eloiza. "How are you supporting, again, systemic bias and racism in the United States and kind of helping to reverse that in some way, by the way that you're investing and spending your money."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How DEI has changed over the last 20 years.
• How companies can hold themselves accountable to DEI goals.
• What a "diversity identity" means.
• How companies can navigate a complicated political landscape.
• How Allstate uses data to ensure its accountability.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Eloiza about the part employee resource groups play in the company and why Allstate rebranded them. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Eloiza's Allstate profile
• Allstate Inclusive Diversity & Equity
• Eloiza's written testimony for Congress

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What causes burnout? So often, conversations around burnout center on the effect — the burnout itself — rather than the cause. It is only when the conversation focuses on the chronic job stressors at the root of burnout, can organizations begin to tackle the problem. 

Because at its root, burnout is an indication of a misalignment between people and their jobs. By identifying where these misalignments occur, organizations can make adjustments which improve employees' relationships with their jobs.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Christina Maslach, pioneer of research on workplace burnout, creator of the Maslach Burnout Inventory standard assessment tool and author of "The Burnout Challenge," shares the key factors that influence whether we have positive or negative relationships with our jobs. Christina has studied the relationships people have with their work and what organizations can do to improve those relationships for over four decades.

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"If we're going to do anything about why burnout occurs, as opposed to focusing on who is getting it, we need to focus on what's causing it, we need to prevent the impact of those stressors, reduce them, or have them be better managed, so that they don't occur as often all of these kinds of things," said Christina.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why burnout and stress aren't synonymous.
• Why vacations and self-care are only short-term solutions.
• How burnout is more than an individual issue.
• The importance of networks and community in alleviating burnout.
• The six areas where organizations can focus to improve alignment between people and their jobs.

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan talks with Christina about hustle culture, the upsides and the downsides of a daily commute and chardonnay burnout. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Christina and Michael P. Leiter's latest book: "The Burnout Challenge: Managing People's Relationships with Their Jobs" 
• "How to Measure Burnout Accurately and Ethically"

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The ongoing debate between return to office or work from home misses the point. The question isn't where we work, but how.

Over the last two and a half years white collar workers have taken part in a grand experiment which upended many of the long-held norms of the workday. Business leaders now have the choice of what to do next: embrace this new way of work or try to return to how things were in 2019.   

In this kickoff episode to Season 3, Sheela Submramanian, co-founder of Future Forum and VP at Slack, and co-author of "How The Future Works: Leading Flexible Teams to Do the Best Work of Their Lives" shares why leaders need to move past the debate around physical location of work to embrace a much more flexible approach to how work gets done.

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"It's really critical for leaders to think about flexibility when it comes to choice in both where and when people work, rather than setting mandates in terms of the number of days they need to come back into the office," Subramanian said. "There's an opportunity for us to shift the conversation from power to trust, because power reflects the command and control model that we had for so long."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The dangers of confusing presenteeism for performance.
• The outdated ideas around professionalism we've shed in the last few years (and the ones we still should lose).
  
• Why working from home increased a sense of belonging in employees of color.  
• Why the future of work comes down to two things: flexibility and trust.
• What leaders' top concern today should be.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Sheela about why we should all be in touch with our inner two-year-olds, why we need alternate career paths outside of management and where to find the best bagel in Oakland. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Future Forum website: futureforum.com
• Sheela's book: "How the Future Works: Leading Flexible Teams to Do the Best Work of Their Lives"
• Sheela on LinkedIn
• Sheela on Twitter
• Ibram X. Kendi, "How to Be an Antiracist"
  

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How do you stay positive in the middle of a tragedy?

It's a question that became all too real for our next guest, who found himself at the scene of the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade in Highland Park, Ill. that left seven people dead and scores wounded.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Howard Prager, executive coach and author of "Make Someone's Day" shares how times of trouble are exactly when we need to focus on the needs of others and tells us what exactly we can do at work to make each others' lives better.

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"Negativity just breeds more negativity both within us and with others," Howard said. "I believe that when we can make others feel better, I know that we too feel better because of our mirror neurons creating what I call the boomerang effect."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How to stay upbeat amidst tragedy and bad news.
• Why we need more kindness in the workplace.
• How to practice gratitude and recognition at work.
• How leaders can make time to make others' days.
• The role of recognition in hybrid and remote work.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Howard about bringing your whole self to work, if nice people do indeed finish last and why the tuba is the most underrated musical instrument. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Howard Prager's website: howardhprager.com
• Howard's book: "Make Someone's Day: What It Can Do For You and Your Organization"
• Howard on LinkedIn
• Marshall Goldsmith's website
• Doug Conant's website

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The word friction typically carries negative connotations, seen as an abrasive or discordant force. Yet the right kind of friction can also prompt feelings of belonging, engagement and meaning.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Soon Yu, author and international speaker, about how introducing good friction in your workplace can inspire employees, give them a greater sense of purpose and motivate them to experiment. What it's not about is doing less.

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"Good friction in the work environment is actually asking more of your employees. And part of what you're asking more of them is to co-create the culture, to have ownership and the ability to influence what happens," said Soon. "And it's not just a top-down situation where the senior leader has a vision and states, you know, the values and everybody just follows that, you're actually asking for this idea of feedback, loop engagement and collaboration at all different levels."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The difference between good and bad friction.
• Why asking employees for more effort can build a sense of ownership.
• Why employees should identify if their workplaces support autonomy, mastery and purpose. 
• How hybrid workforces can introduce good friction.
• Why thriving brands introduce good friction to promote loyalty, belonging and more.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Soon about boxed cake mixes, the seven virtues of good friction, and why Soon thinks working retail is harder than any white collar job. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Soon Yu's website
• Soon Yu and Dave Birss, "Friction"
• Soon Yu with Dave Birss, "Iconic Advantage" 

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Mention LEGO and most people will immediately picture building and playing with the company's famous multicolored bricks. But there's another level of play that goes into building an office where employees can't wait to come to work.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Tim Ahrensbach, head of workplace experience at The LEGO Group, about how the Danish company completely redesigned the corporate office to be a place that is more than just a place to get work done. It's about encouraging play and building the connections that bring people together.

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"We've done that in a really exciting way that makes our colleagues, when they come into LEGO campus, realize there's a reason why I've gone into the office today," Tim said. "I'm not just doing it out of habit or because there's this policy."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Lessons learned from the April opening of Lego's new 600,000 square-foot campus.
• What workplace experience looks like at LEGO.
• LEGO's outlook on the hybrid workplace.
• What employers can learn from the hotel and hospitality industry.
• What makes an office worth coming to.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Tim about go-to karaoke songs, what makes co-working spaces good, and Tim's all-time favorite LEGO set. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Timothy Ahrensbach on LinkedIn
• About the LEGO Group
• New LEGO campus in Billund, Denmark

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Human resources has come a long way since its days as the personnel department. Yet tensions remain between organizations that view HR as a strategic partner and those that still see HR people as paper pushers and party planners.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Dr. Marie Harper, Dean, Dr. Wallace E. Boston School of Business, American Public University System. Marie's professional path started in a personnel department, but hasn't stopped evolving since then. She believes HR professionals who don't view themselves as change agents will "be destroyed."

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"Every time there's a problem, you can't say, we will train people," said Marie. "Rather, you should look at what is going on in the system, do I need to change employees do I need to change policies, procedures, the systems that we use, and that's how you make change in the organization. I truly believe in that, you have to look at the big picture before you try to assist and help individuals."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How Human Resources moved beyond administrative work.
• The risk of burnout among HR professionals and why some organizations still aren't addressing it.
• Why people should think in terms of personal growth and not careers.
• What gives Marie hope about the next generation of HR leaders.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Marie about important skills for HR professionals, why she hates the word 'career,' how a Philadelphia mayor's election loss spurred her into HR and if Mickey Mouse can cure burnout. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Marie Harper on LinkedIn
• Dr. Wallace E. Boston School of Business, APUS site
• Jim Collins, "First Who, Then What"

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In any ecosystem, it's the balance that is important. Too much of one thing can lead to negative consequences for the whole. It's a concept that carries through to the digital workplace.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Aaron Kim, senior director and head, digital workplace solutions, at Toronto-based Royal Bank of Canada (RBC). When it comes to the tools for a healthy digital workplace, it's important to not get too comfortable with the status quo. A healthy workplace ecosystem depends on balancing that with innovation and experimentation.

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"When things change, people tend to long for what they lost or they miss the old days," Aaron said. "By doing that, they fail to see the new opportunities in front of them. There's a whole new world that probably has more opportunities than the previous one had."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How a biology student transformed into a digital workplace executive.
• Thinking about the organization as a multiverse with multiple realities.
• How to focus on the big picture while ensuring local teams have the tools they need.
• Balancing competing priorities and navigating workplace conflicts.
• How to use enterprise search to surface content relevant to employees.

• The enduring legacy of Web 2.0 in today's enterprises.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Aaron about Web3 hype, Elon Musk's bid to takeover Twitter, hockey vs. soccer, and the enduring appeal of vintage 1960s Batman. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Aaron Julius Kim on LinkedIn, Twitter and Instagram
• Digital Workplace Group Digital Leader of the Year award, 2018
• Book: Everybody Lies by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz

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There's no single recipe when it comes to internal communications. But one thing that's consistent is the importance of employee feedback.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Judy Whitcomb, senior vice president of organizational strategy and effectiveness at Vi, a Chicago-based operator of luxury senior living communities across the US. Throughout her career, she's worked in HR, learning and development, marketing and communications. The pandemic and its aftermath put all that experience to the test. 

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"One thing we learned early on was that we had to be thoughtful and we had to be intentional about our communication strategy," Judy said. "And we couldn't share information with residents without sharing things with our employees at the same time, so we understood the necessity of communicating concurrently about what was going on."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How Vi adapted employee communications to the challenges of the last two-plus years.
• The keys to effective internal communications, whether it's in a crisis or normal times.
• The role of HR in employee communications.
• How to ensure that all voices are heard as part of an employee listening program.
• Why the company decided to rollout ViHive, its new internal communications app.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Judy about learning management systems, how useful it is for HR to think like marketing and whether it's better to be an HR generalist or specialist. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Judy Whitcomb on LinkedIn
• Vi Living website
• ViHive press release

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For many companies, remote work was just a stopgap measure to address a temporary disruption to business as usual. For others, it's a way of life. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Betsy Bula, all-remote evangelist at GitLab, about how her company came to embrace all remote all the time, and what others can learn from their example. GitLab has collected lessons learned in a publicly available guide that runs to thousands of pages, but remote work there remains a work in progress.

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"Even still, this has been a journey," Betsy said. "We're always iterating and making changes. Even for a company that's been long remote like GitLab, it's not a thing that always remains the same."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Just how successful remote work has been throughout the pandemic.
• Why GitLab decided to go all remote and how they overcame objections.
• How remote work is a constantly evolving set of practices.
• Whether or not a company should hire a head of remote work.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Betsy about North Carolina basketball, the legacy of Duke's Coach K and why hybrid work as a model is overrated. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Betsy Bula on LinkedIn and Twitter
• GitLab's 2022 Remote Work Playbook
• GitLab's Guide to Remote Work
• Betsy's post on remote work and expectant parents

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For many people, talking about pay is one of the most difficult conversations they have at work. One reason is that it's so tightly tied up into their perceptions of their own self worth and value. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to David Turetsky, vice president of consulting at Salary.com and host of the HR Data Labs podcast, about pay transparency and why companies should be more open about what workers get paid. More often than not, secrets lead to deals that are ultimately bad for business.

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"Bargains are bad," David said. "People shouldn't be offered bargain deals. When recruiters hire people, they should be recruiting them for the job at the pay they're going to pay other people. And there shouldn't be this secretive back-and-forth."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why it's so hard to talk about salary in today's workplace.
• How pay transparency can lead to greater pay equity.
• Why opening up with employees about pay won't lead to bad results for business.
• The role of regulation and legislation in making pay more transparent.
• Why basing pay on location is short-sighted in today's market.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with David about universal basic income, the importance of a realistic minimum wage, and what it will take for them to open up about their own salaries. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• David Turetsky on LinkedIn
• HR Data Labs Podcast
• Dan Price and Gravity Payments
• Pay Transparency Law Regulation S-K

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The reason why employees decide to quit is often not very complicated. But that doesn't mean the solutions are easy, particularly as the Great Resignation has legions of workers looking for the door. And with more and more companies heading back into the office, nearly every corporate decision is under a microscope.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Beverly Kaye, career expert and author of multiple books on employee engagement, talent development and performance management including "Up Is Not the Only Way" and "Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go." Retaining your best people during times like this starts with knowing what employees are feeling, and then taking targeted actions based on that understanding.

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"Leaders have to know that people are coming back either burning, churning or yearning," said Beverly. "Burning meaning, 'I can't wait to get back and meet with my colleagues.' Churning meaning 'I'm coming back kind of half-heartedly. I don't know if I really want to.' And yearning, meaning 'Well, maybe now it'll be different."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why the issues underlying the Great Resignation are nothing new but the scale is different.
• How to respond in situations where employees have the leverage.
• What managers can do to hold on to their people, and what to do when they can't.
• Why you don't need AI and advanced technology to boost employee retention.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Beverly about the power of stay interviews, what it means to be "loose in the saddle," and whether bonuses and incentives are effective retention tools. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Beverly Kaye's website: bevkaye.com
• Beverly Kaye on LinkedIn and Twitter
• Bev's five books, including "Love 'Em or Lose 'Em," "Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go" and "Up Is Not the Only Way."

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In many ways, the leaders organizations need today are exactly the ones they're most likely to overlook.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Jennifer Kahnweiler, leadership expert and author of "The Introverted Leader," about the strengths that introverts bring to the workplace and how organizations can tap into them during this particular moment at work. What's needed is a closer look at how we communicate and collaborate.

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"We have a world that's structured for extroverts. It's very fast-paced [and] it's not getting any slower," Jennifer said. "So much is geared towards teamwork, which really is not necessarily the strong suit of the introvert all the time. So some of the forces that we have actually in work structures and organizations really don't lend themselves to the sweet spots of the introvert."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The difference between shyness and introversion.
• Why work structures are biased toward extroverts.
• The strengths introverts bring to the disrupted workplace.
• How to balance introversion and extroversion in teamwork.
• What organizations should do differently as they head back to the office.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak out themselves as introverts, talk with Jennifer about the viability of workplace personality assessments and engage in some introvert-friendly awkward silence. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Jennifer Kahnweiler on LinkedIn
• Jennifer's website: jenniferkahnweiler.com
• Myers-Brigg Type Indicators
• "Stop and chats" from Curb Your Enthusiasm
• Ed Frauenheim and "Reinventing Masculinity: The Liberating Power of Compassion and Connection"

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The future of the metaverse may be the topic of the day for many tech pundits, but the reality is that it's already here. The virtual reality, that is.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Derek Belch, CEO of virtual reality training firm Strivr, about how VR is being used to train employees right now and what potential it holds for the future. We've entered a new era of VR technology, he said, and the recent buzz around the metaverse is only going to accelerate its use in the enterprise.

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"The effect on the human brain is so real," Derek says. "If VR is done well, the brain can't tell the difference between a virtual simulation and real life. So, I think that's the difference is we're in that cheaper, lighter, faster era. And this technology that used to be very cumbersome, very expensive, very heavy ... that's all gone."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How an aspiring football coach turned into a VR training entrepreneur.
• When VR training is a good option for companies.
• The difference between VR and augmented reality.
• Why organizations that don't invest in emerging technologies like VR and the metaverse will be left behind.
• How Walmart used VR training to prepare employees for Black Friday and why he's bullish on its use for soft skills.
• What companies need to get started in VR for employee training and development.

Co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak also talk with Derek about his career as a college football player at Stanford, how the end of his coaching career was just the beginning he needed, and why he's both a tech optimist and realist. Plus, Siobhan's got jokes! Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Derek Belch on LinkedIn
• Derek's company Strivr
• Newsweek: Turkish farmer gives VR headsets to cows
• Stanford Faculty Profile: Jeremy Bailenson

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The current moment is a powerful opportunity to reshape and remake work. But getting it right is both relatively straightforward and fiendishly complex. 

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Alan Pelz-Sharpe, information management expert and founder of advisory firm Deep Analysis, about the road ahead. Organizations are poised to make giant leaps forward, he says, with powerful and useful tools to manage information and deliver better customer and employee experiences. But it's going to take a lot more than writing a check. 

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"If people aren't prepared to make bold moves to get rid of decades of junk, if they're not prepared to be honest about how miserably inefficient some of their processes are and get rid of them, or completely rethink them, then it's limited," Alan said.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The problem with information management in companies today.
  
• Why it's long past time to clean out the digital junk in your data closet.
• Why you should approach customer experience and employee experience as one challenge.
• The No. 1 reason most business applications fail.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Alan about the metaverse and web3, his side career as a DJ and what his photography background teaches him about digital transformation. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Alan Pelz-Sharpe on LinkedIn
• Alan's firm Deep Analysis
• Deep Analysis on Twitter

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Many organizations have been serious about diversity and inclusion work for decades, so why has so little progress been made?

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Cynthia Owyoung, vice president of inclusion, equity and belonging at Robinhood and author of the new book "All Are Welcome: How to Build a Real Workplace Culture of Inclusion That Delivers Results." Cynthia shares insights and practical advice from her two decades of experience in a wide range of companies. The bottom line: If you're just making it an HR initiative, you're missing the point. 

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"When we view this work as primarily an HR initiative or something that only sits within talent, I think we're missing a huge opportunity," Cynthia said. "And we're also not addressing the broader influences and context within your business ecosystem that is actually going to make or break your success in this space." 

Highlights of the conversation include:

• The evolution of diversity and inclusion to incorporate equity and belonging.
  
• How DEIB work can go beyond HR to be a driver of business and growth.
• How leaders can overcome their discomfort to be an advocate for DEIB work.
• The future of DEIB work in the hybrid world of work.
• Why the Great Resignation is an opportunity to really make a difference.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Cynthia about diversity quotas, algorithmic bias and why businesses should stop hiring for culture fit. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Cynthia Owyoung on LinkedIn
• Cynthia's personal website
• Cynthia's book on Amazon: "All Are Welcome: How to Build a Real Workplace Culture of Inclusion That Delivers Results"
• Breaking Glass Forums

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Could your TV be the answer to the challenges of the Great Resignation? It just might be, in part at least.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Meredith Sadoulet, vice president of talent, strategy and experience at Comcast, about the story behind the development of Xfinity X1 Career Center, a job search destination launched on the Philadelphia-based company's cable platform in 2021. Meredith led the small entrepreneurial team within Comcast to launch this new voice-enabled, consumer-facing job search tool. 

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"I can remember in the earliest days having some conversations with folks who said, 'I can't imagine that anyone would ever want to think about something serious like job search when they're watching TV,'" Meredith said. "Yet we had some market research and frankly, we had anecdotes. And we also had a gut feeling that there was an opportunity here based on what we were seeing with employment trends and a need for disruption." 

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How Comcast discovered TV was a search destination for job seekers.
• What the Career Center does and how the company built it.
• How companies like Walmart are using the platform to meet recruiting and diversity and inclusion goals.
• The effects of the Great Resignation on recruiting and job search.
• Lessons learned from operating as a startup within a larger company.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Meredith about whether 5G is overrated or underrated, the enduring allure of business travel and bicycle racing as a form of relaxation. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Cynthia on LinkedIn
• Cynthia's personal website
• Meredith's personal website: meredithsadoulet.com
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Before COVID pushed many workers into remote work, collaboration consumed as much as 85% of people's work time. In the post-pandemic world it's gone even higher, adding five to eight hours to the average work week. We're collaborating more, which is a good thing, but we've entered overload territory.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Rob Cross, professor of global leadership at Babson College and author of "Beyond Collaboration Overload," about what that means and how companies can make sure they're collaborating in the right ways. Especially as companies ponder their return-to-office strategy, understanding internal networks and identifying who your organizational super collaborators are is critically important. 

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"They're in my mind the really big flight risks that a lot of the organizations are using the network analytics to understand," Rob said, "because if you force them back what you're doing is not just losing a person, you're losing that network too. And so the impact is quite, quite significant."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How Zoom fatigue is different from collaboration overload.
• How to drive better innovation from collaboration.
• The role of purpose and intention in building effective collaboration.
• How to build high quality relationships in remote and hybrid work.
• Who should take ownership of collaboration inside the organization.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk to Rob about how actor Kevin Bacon is a model for the kind of networked connections we should be aiming for in our organizations, and pluses and minuses of New Year's resolutions. Listen in for more.

Show Notes

• Rob Cross on LinkedIn
• Rob's book: "Beyond Collaboration Overload"
• Rob's website: robcross.org
• Connected Commons
  
• Reworked article: Is It Time for an Organizational Network Analysis
• Harvard Business Review article: Collaborative Overload
  

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Remote and hybrid work is a golden opportunity to make real progress toward diversity and inclusion goals, but only if companies handle it right.

In this episode of Get Reworked, we talk to Joan C. Williams, professor at University of California Hastings School of Law and author of Bias Interrupted: Creating Inclusion for Real and for Good, about that opportunity and the role organizations can play in interrupting bias at work. Here's a tip: Just having a conversation about it isn't enough.

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"If you had a problem with sales, you wouldn't respond to it by having a conversation about sales, and then expect anything to change," Joan said. "You would analyze the sales process, figure out what's going wrong, develop metrics to establish baselines and measure progress, and then keep trying evidence-based strategies to achieve your goals. You wouldn't have a sincere conversation about sales and designate National Celebrate Sales Month and expect anything to change."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why diversity, equity and inclusion programs in many organizations fail to solve the challenge of bias.
• The places where bias in organizational systems show up and how that harms women and people of color.
  
• How to design hiring processes, performance evaluations and succession planning to be more equitable.
• Why change needs to come from the top and the bottom of the organization.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk to Joan about why she has made studying and interrupting bias her life's work and talk about their bi-weekly live conversations with audience members on Twitter Spaces. Listen in for more.

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• Joan C. Williams on LinkedIn
• Joan's Book: Bias Interrupted: Creating Inclusion for Real and for Good
• Bias Interrupters website
• The Center for WorkLife Law
  
• Strategies to interrupt the four patterns of bias
  

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Employee experience has become a primary objective for organizations as they look to retain pandemic-fatigued employees and recruit in-demand talent to fuel their growth. But it's an easy thing to get wrong.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Tom Dewaele, global head of employee experience at Unilever, shares how the London-based consumer goods maker creates a unified employee experience for 150,000 workers across 190 countries.

It's a journey that can easily become fragmented across functions and multiple departmental initiatives, with the end result being frustrated employees.

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"That's what triggered the thinking of starting to look at it in a different way, in a more end-to-end way and bring those different functions together under one single umbrella called employee experience," said Dewaele.

Dewaele, the winner of Reworked's 2021 Employee Experience Leader of the Year award, shares what others can learn from the journey Unilever's been on over the last few years. Highlights of the conversation include:

• The importance of having a single, unified vision for employee experience across functions.
• How Unilever started on its employee experience journey.
• What employee experience leaders can learn from customer experience.
• How to balance priorities across regions and departments and still find space for experimentation.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Tom about Belgian fries vs. their French counterpart and urge listeners to get their award applications ready for the coming year. Listen in for more.

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• Tom Dewaele on LinkedIn
• Article: Meet the 2021 Employee Experience Leaders of the Year
  

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Hybrid work is the order of the day for many companies as they ponder their future. But what does hybrid work actually mean and how do you design it to work for both employees and the organization?

In this episode of Get Reworked, Jim Kalbach, chief evangelist at digital whiteboard company MURAL, talks about how the current moment is an inflection point for designing places where people actually want to work.

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"I don't think it's a change in work that we've experienced during the pandemic," he said. "It's a change in lifestyle that we've experienced and because of that people kind of got a flavor of a different way of living and working. And I don't think they're ready to give that up."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why you have to be intentional about how you design hybrid and remote work.
• How to use small moments within meetings to create a positive culture.
• How user experience and design thinking can be used to create effective hybrid work experiences.
• The 5 P Framework for thinking about hybrid work, and why policy and practice should drive your approach.
• Why now is the time to reinvent how you engage with teams and embrace a playful mindset.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk about the oeuvre of Nicolas Cage movies and how the journeyman Hollywood actor just might be the panacea for what ails the digital workplace. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Jim Kalbach on LinkedIn
• Jim on Twitter @JimKalbach
• Jim's Book: The Jobs To Be Done Playbook
• The Jobs to Be Done Toolkit
• Jim's TEDx Talk on jazz improvisation for radical collaboration
• Digital Workplace Experience conference
  

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The past year-plus has been one giant, often unwanted and unanticipated, experiment at work. From emerging collaboration tools and AI-fueled bots to new working models like hybrid and remote work, organizations large and small had to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. New ways of thinking and working are a reality from the frontline to the C-suite.

It's also quite obvious it's still a work in progress. In this kickoff episode to Season 2 of Get Reworked, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak take a look back at some of what's happened and review their own podcast experiment.

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The past year has seen dizzying advancements as well as consistent reminders that it's often the management basics that have the most dramatic effect. Highlights of the conversation include:

• Big workplace themes from the 2021 Digital Workplace Experience series.
• Why the basics are so important in the workplace of the future.
• Favorite episodes from Season 1 of the podcast.
  

Plus, Siobhan and Mike renew their debate about whether or not raisins in cookies are a good thing. That and more hard-hitting commentary on what's next from the upcoming season of the Get Reworked podcast. Listen in for more.

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• Siobhan Fagan on Twitter and LinkedIn.
• Mike Prokopeak on Twitter and LinkedIn.
• The 2021 Digital Workplace Experience series.
• The State of the Digital Workplace research report.

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From established tools like Slack, enterprise giants Microsoft Teams and Google Workspace, and emerging whiteboard tools like Mural, we have more ways to collaborate at work than we've had before. But that doesn't mean we've got it all figured out.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Angela Ashenden, principal analyst in the workplace transformation practice at CCS Insight, shares why the technology is important but it's the human element that is perhaps the most tricky in the new world of collaboration.

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"There is this increasing requirement on managers to learn new skills in order to cope with the changes in the way that teams work today and the way that people work," Angela said. "And as we go into this kind of hybrid work environment, then there's a number of new things that come into that picture as well."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How collaboration is changing inside organizations in response to technology innovation.
• The ways management needs to change its approach to collaboration in hybrid and remote work environments.
• When asynchronous collaboration makes sense and when it makes sense to collaborate in real time.
• The critical importance of workplace agreements and policies that spell out collaboration expectations.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Angela about her skepticism about the rise of mental wellness apps and reflect on their takeaways from the first season of the podcast. Listen in for more.

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• Angela Ashenden on LinkedIn and Twitter
• Angela's author profile on Reworked
• Angela's CCS Insight blog

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In February 2020, Delta Air Lines was celebrating a record year for travel and looking forward to a 2020 that would potentially surpass even that. Thirty days later, nearly all of that business was gone.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Brandon Carson talks about the experience of living through that moment and how it's opened up a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to redefine work. Until recently, Brandon was head of learning at Delta, one of the world's largest airlines, and recently took on a new role as vice president of learning and leadership at Walmart. He's also the author of a new book, "L&D's Playbook in the Digital Age."

It's that learning and development focus that has him feeling more hopeful, not less so, about the future.  

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"We've got all these opportunities to connect to each other and learn from each other," Brandon said. "So it's an opportunity that is unlike anything we've had in the past."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• What he learned about leadership and learning through lockdown.
• How companies can reset and rebuild their leadership bench for future success.
  
• What exactly is different about how companies approach employee development in the digital age.
• Why a learning strategy needs to be the business strategy.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk with Brandon about AI, digital natives, 70-20-10 and the enduring magic of Whitney Houston. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Brandon Carson on LinkedIn
• Brandon's website
• Brandon's New Book: L&D's Playbook in the Digital Age
• Book: Learning in the Age of Immediacy

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Corporate social responsibility gets thrown around a lot in business today. Organizations regularly tout the steps they take to make the world a better place and how they're endeavoring to create a more diverse and inclusive workplace.

How much of that is real? In this episode of Get Reworked, Malia Lazu breaks it down for us. She's a diversity and inclusion strategist, founder of consulting firm The Lazu Group, lecturer on innovation at MIT Sloan School of Management, and a former banker and community organizer. Suffice it to say, she sees the issue from many perspectives.

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"Right now, I think a lot of what we're seeing is performative," Malia said. "And you know, that's great. Performative is a start, but it's not going to be enough to actually have an impact. We have to move from intention to impact. And once we start doing that, I think we can all take off our skepticism hat a little bit. But right now, there's no reason to."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How to know when a company is serious about making a real impact.
• Why equity is the workplace standard that companies should measure themselves against.
• Why CSR and diversity and inclusion work takes practice.
• The Three L Process (listen, learn and loving action) for how to make a difference.
• The power of employee resource groups and how to ensure women don't continue to bear the brunt of the remote work downside.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk about why corporate social responsibility is top of mind for businesses today. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Malia Lazu on Twitter and LinkedIn
• Ben & Jerry's statement on the murder of George Floyd (June 2020)
• Malia's column on women on the workforce in Banker & Tradesmen
• Book: Sex at Dawn: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality

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The shift to remote and hybrid work is just the tip of the transformation iceberg. To make the most of the massive investment in digital workplace technology over the last year-plus, we need to think much more deeply about digital transformation.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Anh Nguyen Phillips, global CEO program research director at Deloitte Consulting and co-author of "The Transformation Myth: Leading Your Organization through Uncertain Times," tells us why people are the linchpin in successful digital transformation. 

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"They have the creativity, the ingenuity, the passion," Anh said, "and all of that feeds in to creating the most impactful, innovative, life-changing kinds of technologies that we have, and that we will have going into the future. But we can't tap into that creativity and that innovation without focusing on the human element."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why we need to focus on enterprise transformation, not just digital transformation.
  
• Why having a higher purpose is essential to making the most of digital technology.
• How digitally mature companies approach leadership and organizational culture differently.
• The five traits of organizations that get transformation right.
  

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk about their own underwhelming pandemic lockdown-inspired achievements. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Anh Nguyen Phillips on LinkedIn and Twitter
• Book: "The Technology Fallacy: How People Are the Real Key to Digital Transformation"
• Book: "The Transformation Myth: Leading Your Organization through Uncertain Times"
• Book: "Work Better Together"
• Deloitte's Digital DNA framework

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There is no status quo anymore when it comes to skills. New technologies, new realities and new challenges are arriving at a rapid fire pace, leaving many previously skilled and experienced people on the outside looking in. That's why many organizations are embracing the need to reskill and upskill their workforce. But what exactly does that mean?

In this episode of Get Reworked, Shelley Osborne, corporate learning executive and author of "The Upskilling Imperative," explains and tells us why the ability to learn is the essential skill every organization and every individual needs to succeed. Interestingly, it's not about a specific skill. Rather, it's about creating an environment where learning can happen. 

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"When we do it well, and when we create these incredible learning cultures, and set people up to be growing and developing and upskilling, we make the best organizations, the most innovative, creative, interesting, amazing places to work," Shelley said.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• How upskilling is different from reskilling.
• Why a learning mindset is the key to the future of work.
• The core tenets of a successful learning culture.
  
• How to avoid letting the mistakes of the past define how companies deliver learning in the future.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak share what teachers influenced them the most and come up with a new business idea. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Book: "The Upskilling Imperative"
  
• Shelley Osborne on LinkedIn
  

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In this episode of Get Reworked, Andrew Shatté, pyschologist, author and chief knowledge officer at meQuilibrium, shares why companies need to get serious about mental health and start having real conversations about mental wellbeing at work. The reality is that less than a third of employees will come out of this experience stronger and more resilient.

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"There's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't strive for 100% of those people in our workforce to come out of this stronger if we take steps now and do the right thing," Andrew said. "And I think organizations right now are staring down a choice point and they do not want to be on the wrong side of history here."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why we're due for a renegotiation of the social contract between employers and employees.
• Managers' role in employee mental wellbeing and how to help them identify how to help.
• The seven skills to build a more resilient mindset.
• How the skills we learn now will help with the continued transformational change ahead.
  

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak wonder just how awkward their face-to-face interactions will be as pandemic restrictions ease. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Andrew Shatté on the web.
• Andrew's company, meQuilibrium.
• TEDx Video.

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Visionary strategy, talented people, management excellence, relentless execution, innovative products and services. They're all hallmarks of a successful business. But ... curiosity? 

In this episode of Get Reworked, Simon Brown, chief learning officer at Novartis, and Garrick Jones of The Ludic Group make the case for curiosity as the competitive edge companies need today, based on their business bestseller "The Curious Advantage." It lies at the heart of the essential skills needed to navigate an uncertain and constantly shifting future, they argue. How you manage your people is how you'll unlock its value.

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"A big part is actually managers, leaders within an organization creating that culture where people can learn, can experiment, can try things, can question, can challenge," Simon said.

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why curiosity is the greatest driver of value in the digital age.
• The 7 C's of curiosity and how to develop them.
• The need for experimentation and multiple channels for thinking.
• How leaders can make asking questions a central part of business culture.
  

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk through what they're curious about these days and why this conversation has left them hankering for a Big Mac. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Book: "The Curious Advantage"
• Podcast: "The Curious Advantage"
• Simon Brown on LinkedIn
• Garrick Jones on LinkedIn
  

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Jobs are being pulled apart into tasks and projects. Degrees and credentials are being boiled down to their underlying skills and capabilities. The result is a reinvention of the way we think about work.

In this episode of Get Reworked, professor John Boudreau and futurist Ravin Jesuthasan share the highlights of their forthcoming book, "Work Without Jobs." The bottom line: The automation of work is leading not to the destruction of jobs, but rather to their deconstruction.

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"All of those deconstructed elements are now going to live in a way on their own," said John. "They're no longer going to be exclusively bundled into jobs, job holders and degrees. And that requires mindsets, leadership approaches and HR systems that can manage and track and optimize at that deconstructed level."

Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why we need a new operating system for work.
• How internal talent marketplaces can match skills to opportunities.
• How deconstruction can put power into the hands of workers.
• Why and how HR needs to shift from being a steward of employment to a steward of work.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk through the far-reaching effects of automation and what that potentially means for individual workers and society at large. Listen in for more. 

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Show Notes

• Website: Dr. John Boudreau
• Website: Ravin Jesuthasan
• Book: "Work Without Jobs"
• MIT Sloan Management Review Article
  

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It's quite possible that people now entering the workforce could hold 20 or even 30 jobs over the span of a career that will last far longer than it has in the past. And the skills they learned to prepare for the jobs of today will be obsolete in record time.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Dr. Michelle Weise, senior advisor at Imaginable Futures, joins us to talk about what this all means for the future of workplace education. She shares insights from her recent book, "Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs that Don't Even Exist Yet."The short story? What we've done in the past isn't going to cut it anymore.

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"With all these different kinds of rapid technological advancements and changes in artificial intelligence and machine learning and deep learning, we're going to actually have to skill up continuously and return to learning in order to remain competitive in that longer life," Michelle said.

In this episode, Michelle explains how medical advances are making a 150-year life span a reality, meaning the next generation of workers could very well have a career that spans a century. Highlights of the conversation include:

• What extended careers mean for education, both at school and at work.
• The role of companies in helping workers reskill and upskill.
• The skills we'll need to thrive in the jobs that haven't even been created yet.
• How lifelong learning is like a spiral staircase.

Plus, co-hosts Mike Prokopeak and Siobhan Fagan share how their first jobs quite possibly violated multiple child labor laws, but the lessons learned carry on to this day. Listen in for more.

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Show Notes

• Dr. Michelle Weise on LinkedIn and Twitter
• Her book: "Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don't Even Exist Yet"
  
• Michelle's website

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It can often feel like we're drowning in a sea of meetings, documents, notifications and alerts. And to some degree that's true. Information overload is bad for you and it's bad for business. But that doesn't mean there's nothing we can do about it.

In this episode of Get Reworked, tech executive and historian David Lavenda joins us to put some perspective on the topic and how we can better manage the flood of information that comes our way. It's not the first time humanity has grappled with the challenge.

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"Throughout history, every time a new information technology has been created or become popular, there's always been somebody who stepped in and said, 'This time it's different.'" he said. "Eventually things work themselves out and we move on." 

In this episode, David explains why information overload isn't a new problem and what we can do to better manage it in our personal and professional lives. Highlights of the conversation include:

• The history of information overload and how every generation has to grapple with it.
• The three different kinds of information overload.
• How topic computing and new technology can help.
• Why AI isn't going to solve our problems.
  

Plus, host Siobhan Fagan opens up about her Internet browser problem and she and co-host Mike Prokopeak set up a Slack conversation to initiate the Zoom meeting to create the Google Doc to address their channel overload problem. 

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Show Notes

• David Lavenda on LinkedIn and Twitter
• David's website
• David's Reworked author page with linked articles
• Wikipedia article: The commonplace book

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Many companies have detailed corporate mission and vision statements, but do they have a real purpose? It's an important distinction to make as employees and customers increasingly expect their companies to take a stand on issues outside of work.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Stacia Sherman Garr, principal analyst and co-founder of Red Thread Research, joins us to talk about her research into organizational purpose and how to build it into talent practices.

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"In this time when so many of us have been working these long hours and have been having to maybe home school or take care of elders, we can't help but ask ourselves, why are we doing this?" she said. "What's our own purpose? And what's the purpose of the organization I'm working for? And is it worth it?" 

In this episode, Stacia explains what the purpose-driven organization is and how it fits into the future of business. Highlights of the conversation include:

• The history of stakeholder capitalism and why the focus on shareholders is a relatively recent phenomenon.
• How the last year has shifted the conversation about organizational purpose and social impact.
• How leaders can be authentic and avoid "purpose-washing." 
• The ways that organizations can embed purpose into practice from hiring to employee development. 
  

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak hear the voice of their internal skeptic and discuss whether or not this moment of corporate vulnerability and transparency will last.  

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Show Notes

• Stacia on LinkedIn and Twitter
• RedThread Research
• Podcast: Workplace Stories by RedThread Research
• Article: Build Organizational Purpose Into Your Talent Systems
• Report: The Purpose-Driven Organization: HR's Opportunity During Crisis & Beyond
• Business Roundtable Statement on the Purpose of a Corporation

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One of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, forces in a company is its culture. It's also one of the least understood.

In this episode of Get Reworked, Kevin Oakes, CEO and co-founder of the Institute for Corporate Productivity, joins us to talk about his research into company culture and what he's learned about what makes good corporate cultures work. Those ideas are summed up in his recent book, Culture Renovation: 18 Leadership Actions to Build an Unshakeable Company. It's a timely conversation to have right now.

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"The pandemic has changed almost every culture, like it or not," Kevin said. "So the question for companies is, do you want to sit back passively and allow that change to your culture just happen? Or do you want to proactively try to shape the culture you want for the future?" 

In this episode, Kevin talks about how to succeed in culture change efforts. Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why most culture change efforts fail.
• Why it's important to think of culture work as a renovation vs. a transformation.
• How to include people at all levels in change efforts and identify influencers, energizers and blockers.
• How to keep up energy for culture change when we go back to the office.
  

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk through why the culture conversation is important right now and narrowly avert their own clash of cultures over the topic of oatmeal raisin vs. chocolate chip cookies. 

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Show Notes

• Kevin Oakes on LinkedIn.
• i4cp on Twitter.
• Kevin's Book: Culture Renovation: 18 Leadership Actions to Build an Unshakeable Company.
  

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For nearly a year now, many office workers have been holed up at home with a return to the office just a distant prospect. But with the arrival of COVID-19 vaccines we can finally see the office again on the horizon.

But heading back to the office isn't as simple as getting a vaccine and re-starting the daily commute. Work has changed and so must the office. In this episode of Get Reworked, Ryan Anderson, vice president of global research and insights at furniture maker Herman Miller, joins us to talk about what he's learned from the last year of working from home and what our imminent return to the office means for how we work.

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"The game has really been changed because for the first time, maybe ever, the attitudes among work team leaders and managers in 2020 shifted, in that a majority of them now do believe that work can successfully be done outside of the office," Ryan says.

In this episode, Ryan shares a bit about the history of office design and why now is a pivotal moment in the way we think about work. Highlights of the conversation include:

• How desktop computers became the center of office design and what to do about it.
• Why this is a moment to rethink work, not just the office.
• The three factors reshaping how we should think about office space.
• Tips for making the most of your home office environment. 

Plus, co-host Siobhan Fagan reveals that she lives in a kind of Herman Miller museum and Mike Prokopeak shares why West Michigan is one of the best kept-secrets in the U.S. Listen in to find out more.

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Show Notes

• Ryan Anderson on LinkedIn.
• Herman Miller designer Robert Propst and the "Action Office"
• Herman Miller's Work From Home assessment tool
  

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Can we all agree that scheduling a Zoom meeting or two doesn't necessarily make a team better? Hopefully that's not the only lesson we take away from the past year.

It's been a challenging time for work teams in many ways. Remote work pushed co-workers apart at the very moment they needed to come together to address the urgent business crises created by the pandemic. And while 2020 was a challenge, 2021 hasn't exactly gotten off to a great start either. Despite that, there are signs of spring amidst our winter of discontent.

The pressures of the past year pushed companies to adapt in ways that have the potential to create positive change in how work gets done, says Jen Dennard, co-founder and COO at Range.co, a collaboration software company. "There's such innovation in how teams work," she says. "And it's not going to be limited to just knowledge workers."

In this episode, Jen breaks does the state of teamwork at work and why she's optimistic about the future. Highlights of the conversation include:

• The important distinction between effectiveness and productivity.
• How team management has evolved in the face of crisis.
• What managers can do to better manage teams in a remote environment.
• How hybrid work will reshape how teams work.

Plus, co-host Mike Prokopeak asks why work teams seem to be working despite all the challenges while teamwork in politics is so dysfunctional, and Siobhan Fagan works in a choice "I Love Lucy" reference. Listen in to find out more.

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Show Notes

• Jen Dennard on LinkedIn and Twitter.
• Jen's author page on Reworked.

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Work is a marathon and not a sprint. That's worth remembering as we take a look at the state of things following a tumultuous year.

While the last year may have been hard on many organizations and individuals, it’s important to take the long view. We may feel stressed, overworked and burnt out, but the crisis we're living through is actually an opportunity to re-imagine what work can be, says Mary Slaughter, managing director of people advisory services at EY.

The sense of isolation that we've all been through is giving us an opportunity to reconnect with one another and be more purposeful in our relationships at home and at work. And for leaders, it's a chance to step back and think about how to be better.

"They've been equipped to have briefings with investors and analysts and the board of directors and to come in with PowerPoint decks that are filled with charts and spreadsheets and numbers," Mary says. "And just this understanding that emotion is a data point the same way that ROI is — it tells you something about the health and well being of your organization."

In this episode, Mary breaks down the state of our psychology at work. Highlights of the conversation include:

• What the last year of isolation and remote work has done to our emotional well being.
• Why the experience of working through the pandemic has the chance to create lasting change.
• How leadership is being redefined in a more humanistic and realistic way.
• How organizations can better support employees in the long term.

Plus co-hosts Mike Prokopeak and Siobhan Fagan alternate being glass half full and half empty when it comes to the future of work, and break down their takeaways for leadership during this great transformation. Listen in to find out more.

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Show Notes

• Mary Slaughter on LinkedIn.
• Mary's author page on Reworked.
• Carol Dweck and growth mindset.

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Organizations are stuck. Far too often, they think about work in a mechanical way that limits their ability to adapt and rapidly innovate.

As we’ve discovered over the last year, work is an ever-evolving experience, says Paul Miller, CEO of Digital Workplace Group. And that requires an organization that can evolve alongside it. Digital transformation is part of that story, but it’s not all of it.

We’re not just moving into a digital age but into a “living age,” Paul says, and ths next chapter calls for companies to think of themselves not as machines but rather as living and breathing organisms.

In this episode, Paul and his colleague Shimrit Janes share insights from their new book, “Nature of Work: The New Story of Work for a Living Age.” Highlights of the conversation include:

• Why we need a new, nature-based vocabulary to talk about work.
• How to move from a hierarchical, mechanistic structure to a more agile, organic one.
• Why organizations ignore the society and environment around them at their own peril.
• The unifying power of purpose beyond mission and vision statements.
  

The journey from factory to forest is a gradual one, Shimrit and Paul say, but the past year has shown organizations how they can plant the seeds of their future.

Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak talk about what exactly the Wood Wide Web is and use an embarrassing number of puns to set up today’s episode. Curious? Well, don’t make like a tree and leave just yet. Listen in to find out more.

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Show Notes

• Website: Digital Workplace Group
• Book: "Nature of Work: The New Story of Work for a Living Age"
• Science Magazine: "'Wood Wide Web' - the underground network of microbes that connect trees - mapped for the first time"
• Paul Miller on Twitter
• Shimrit Janes on Twitter

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When it comes to employee experience, everything changed in 2020.

Primarily in-person work experiences became remote. Side conversations became Slack channels. Conference calls and staff meet-ups became Teams meetings. We have a decentralized workplace like we’ve never seen before.

It’s a unique point in human history, says Dion Hinchcliffe of Constellation Research. In the past, separate departments would have different approaches to employee experience. To IT, it was about technology. To HR, it was about people and culture. Everyone now is on the same page.

In this episode, Dion breaks down the state of employee experience and shares his insights on how to manage the 2021 workplace. Highlights include:

• How the evolution of customer experience shaped employee experience.
• Why failure to transform will lead to certain collapse.
• The importance of working out loud for greater productivity.
• Why remote first should be the default mode of business going forward.

There's no set answer but lots of opportunity, Dion says. Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak wonder when they’ll get the new COVID vaccine. Spoiler alert: Not soon, but that’s just fine. Listen in to find out more.

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Show Notes

• Dion Hinchcliffe's website
• Dion on Twitter
• Constellation Research
• Future of Work Reality Show
• Report: The CIO Outlook 2021: Delivering Business ROI at Scale

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The last year has given us a lot of baggage to unpack. 2020 saw, among other things, the rapid adoption of digital workplace tools and a fundamental rework of our concept of how work gets done.

For many workers the digital workplace is the new office, said Sam Marshall of ClearBox Consulting. "They don't get the benefit of going to that major edifice that you've erected with the nice polished tiles and so on," Sam said. "They engage with you through digital channels so you better make that good because it's maybe 80% of the opinion that they form about your organization."

Sam has seen a lot in his 20-plus years in the digital workplace. In this episode of Get Reworked, he brings some much-needed clarity to our messy reality and unpacks what it all means as we head into the uncharted territory ahead.

Highlights of this conversation include:

• Why you can’t just buy your way to digital workplace transformation.
• What remote and hybrid working means for the way businesses operate.
• How shadow IT operations can be a source of agility and innovation.
• How the digital workplace is breaking down barriers between the office and the front line.

The bottom line? It’s the dawn of a new era. Don’t squander this opportunity to remake work. Plus, co-hosts Siobhan Fagan and Mike Prokopeak explore why we’re not all that different from baboons when it comes to our work behavior. Listen in to find out more.

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Employee motivation traditionally took one form: You do X and I pay you Y. This kind of approach worked pretty well, up to a point. But as organizations grow in complexity so too does the work, and what is asked of the workforce. That makes such transactional incentives less effective.

“There needs to be … a reason why people participate in that work other than payment,” said Rachel Happe, co-founder of The Community Roundtable. Rachel believes communities create the kind of commitment that goes beyond the salary or the benefits package to inspire employees to “willingly engage rather than get forced to engage.”

In this podcast conversation, Rachel explains why communities are not only central to management but also the organizational operating model of the future. Plus, she makes the case that joy and work are not mutually exclusive. Podcast co-hosts Mike Prokopeak and Siobhan Fagan ask if this is blasphemy or a fresh approach to the 9-to-5. Listen to find out.

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Show Notes

The Community Roundtable: The State of Community Management 2020 report
Twitter: Rachel Happe
TED Talk: "Poverty, money — and love" by Kiva Co-Founder Jessica Jackley

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In March 2020, legions of workers walked out the office doors, trekked home and set up shop at the kitchen table to begin working from home. What we didn’t know then, but do now, is that abrupt departure from the office was actually our entrance into a profoundly different era of work.

“What had been up to that point a slow and steady movement by inches towards digital workplace maturity over years became a movement of miles, practically overnight,” said Sarah Kimmel, vice president of research at Simpler Media Group. And all things considered, the transition went pretty smoothly.

In this podcast conversation, Sarah unpacks the results of her research into the state of the digital workplace pre- and post-COVID, and the tools and technologies that are making this new era of work a reality. 

Plus, podcast co-hosts Mike Prokopeak and Siobhan Fagan talk about how Reworked was started and what exactly we mean when we talk about the digital workplace. Our new reality of remote work fueled the acceleration of the digital workplace and it's not done yet.

Show Notes

Research Report: 2020 State of the Digital Workplace Report: Q3 Edition

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